No Liability for Hyperlinks, Free Speach Still Protected

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Last Tuesday, the British Columbia Court of Appeal affirmed an important precedent-setting decision of the British Columbia Supreme Court regarding online defamation in Crookes v. Newton., 2009 BCCA 392. In the decision, Justice Saunders and Bauman found against the plaintiff Wayne Crookes who argued that the defendant was liable for linking to defamatory material online. Justice Prowse expressed a dissenting opinion. One can find more information concerning the decision of the Supreme Court of British Columbia in the article “Free Speech Online Buoyed, but Concerns Remain”.In the decision of the Supreme Court, Justice Kelleher dismissed Mr. Crookes’ action on the basis that the hyperlinks did not constitute ‘republication’ by comparing the hyperlinks to a footnote where the reader has no actual knowledge of the defamatory material. At the Court of Appeal, the judges addressed three points in their decision: whether or not there is a basis for finding a presumption of publication of the hyperlinked articles, whether or not hyperlinking is a form of publication, and whether or not one can infer publication to at least one party.

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  1. Monsterforce owes me some, as does Joe Nerd, Joe Nerd has declared bankruptcy. I signed up for Joe Nerd a month or so before joining monsterforce, then saw some come through there….. figured why not …..
    Monsterforce claimed (even sent out emails to people) that they would be paid this week or next. Even posted it in the forums (although they delete posts in the forums regularly)
    I just called Monsterforce and asked if the checks got sent out this week or not, and was told they would not be sent out for a month or so ……
    Monsterforce is a rippoff…… I am starting up my monsterforce forum this weekend as I told them I would. I will announce it as soon as it is active. I hope for participation….
    As for all those owed money from joe nerd like myself, I think we are now screwed, once he claimed bankruptsy we became more screwed then ever….
    I will continue to go after him though, and monsterforce for their part.

  2. I point out (before he deletes it after reading this ) That Taylor Michael head of monsterforce posts on the following thread about midway that techs will be paid within two weeks…. Look at the posting date…. If it isnt there when you read this then it stand to reason he did as normal and removed posts, and modified things to make monsterforce aka cilicon solutions look good….the forum post where he says this : http://forums.monsterforcemarketplace.com/yaf_postst67_Anybody-else-having-the-problem-that-MonsterForce-is-unable-to-verify-Bank-Account.aspx
    The date and time of the post: Posted: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:24:08 PM by tmichael
    the post : Mastercard will be Live this week we have been banging out the programing. Also all technicians will be paid out for any previous work done by Joe Nerd in the next two weeks.
    ————–
    Now I do also point out that the mastercard he is referring to is in fact the same on that we were all told was to be ready months ago when we were going to also supposedly be paid. Neither has come to pass

    • got this email from GGE…never heard of never worked for them….the frst red flag was the mention of getting us cheap gas…hahahah, of course it has not be implemented yet…
      You are receiving this email because you have once or many times shown some sort of IT professionalism with a company my network used to do business with. This email IS NOT spam and I am seriously contacting you to see if you would be interested in joining our nationwide network. There is absolutely no cost to join and we do not take a penny out of the work you render. The pay is very competitive and there are many new things developing for this project. If you have a company with techs, we really encourage you to join up as you will be able to cover more areas per day, week and month!
      Global Gateway is the internal network for a very large company called Velocity. Velocity services back bone servers for AT&T and Verizon. Global Gateway is the arm of Velocity. We currently have a 3 ½ year project installing DSL modems in over 400K sites across America. We need your help. In many states we have teams of technicians that work together to get these jobs done. We are currently finishing up the 5000 Rite Aid stores we have been working on for the last 20 weeks and are moving on to another chain called Family Dollar.
      Family Dollar is located in 44 states across the U.S, and has over 6500 locations nationwide. If you are receiving this email, it is because we are light on coverage in your area and we would love for you to join the Global Gateway team! Below is a list of the skills and tools you will need to work in this project:
      Telecom, Networking, cabling: – Skill set
      We only want RELIABLE, SKILLED, PROFESSIONAL techs!!!!
      Tools and materials:
      Crimping tool
      Punch down tool
      Wire cutters
      Strippers
      Toner
      Butt set
      Cable tester
      biscuit jack
      12ft Ladder
      200ft Cat5 or Cat3 cable
      Laptop
      Below is a list of the benefits of being a GGE technician:
      – Technicians are paid every Wednesday in full provided they submit an accurate invoice every Sunday night. To break it down, payment terms are Net4 from invoice date. As I stated before, we do not take a penny from you. We just ask you do the work professionally and represent our network in a professional manner..
      – Every Wednesday nights we have a conference call, the director of operations administrates the call and techs talk of strategy, upcoming projects and events, issues on sites, what went good, what went bad and we collaborate to fix any issues or misunderstandings. The conference calls are also a great place to provide your very own suggestions. The director of operations is a situational based leader and is always open to ideas and suggestions.
      – As a GGE tech, you have exclusive access to a wholesale parts distributor out of NJ called Comprehensive. The price differences are dramatic and you save lots of money on parts.
      – THIS IS NOT YET IMPLEMENTED, but the director of operations is working on a gas deal with select gas companies to provide cheaper gasoline to techs that are part of the GGE network.
      – You will be given a username and password to our automated system that alerts you of work orders, schedules your work weeks for you and you as the tech can provide any type of documentation as to what happened on the job or document your approval codes
      – This is a sub contractor network, not a full time employee, however we have so much work and not enough techs.
      We are really under a lot of pressure to develop and build this network before September when the next phase of the contract starts. This is only the second phase of this contract and we still have years to go. We will be more than happy to provide tech references for your comfort and you may ask the techs anything you want about the network and how its progressed. Please note that this is by all means not an exclusive network, we do not ask that you only work for us as you are an independent sub contractor.
      I sincerely look forward to your response and hope you see fit in our network, if you are interested and have questions, you may respond to this email or call on of the numbers provided below. If the skills and tools needed sound like something you do, please respond, we want you!! If you do decide to look further into our network please let us know the geographical region you cover so we can better manage the tech volume in that area, Techs have made a very good paycheck during the Rite Aid project and this next phase has even more sites. In this 3 ½ year contract we will be hitting a total of 6 store chains ranging from CVS, Wal-Mart, Target, Walgreen’s and more! Thank you!
      References per your request!!
      Scott K
      Recruting Department
      Global Gateway Exchange
      [email protected]
      941-735-2116
      941-735-2299

    • I have work I did for MonsterForce 6 months ago and still have yet to see a dime. Called AGAIN today to be told “by the first of the year” and got hung up on as soon as I mentioned “lawyer”

  3. I recently received this email from Scott K…never heard of him..never done any work for them….It really sounded legit until I got to the part about “working out a deal to get us techs cheaper gas” that was the red flag for me…that through some searching found this site….here is the email
    You are receiving this email because you have once or many times shown some sort of IT professionalism with a company my network used to do business with. This email IS NOT spam and I am seriously contacting you to see if you would be interested in joining our nationwide network. There is absolutely no cost to join and we do not take a penny out of the work you render. The pay is very competitive and there are many new things developing for this project. If you have a company with techs, we really encourage you to join up as you will be able to cover more areas per day, week and month!
    Global Gateway is the internal network for a very large company called Velocity. Velocity services back bone servers for AT&T and Verizon. Global Gateway is the arm of Velocity. We currently have a 3 ½ year project installing DSL modems in over 400K sites across America. We need your help. In many states we have teams of technicians that work together to get these jobs done. We are currently finishing up the 5000 Rite Aid stores we have been working on for the last 20 weeks and are moving on to another chain called Family Dollar.
    Family Dollar is located in 44 states across the U.S, and has over 6500 locations nationwide. If you are receiving this email, it is because we are light on coverage in your area and we would love for you to join the Global Gateway team! Below is a list of the skills and tools you will need to work in this project:
    Telecom, Networking, cabling: – Skill set
    We only want RELIABLE, SKILLED, PROFESSIONAL techs!!!!
    Tools and materials:
    Crimping tool
    Punch down tool
    Wire cutters
    Strippers
    Toner
    Butt set
    Cable tester
    biscuit jack
    12ft Ladder
    200ft Cat5 or Cat3 cable
    Laptop
    Below is a list of the benefits of being a GGE technician:
    – Technicians are paid every Wednesday in full provided they submit an accurate invoice every Sunday night. To break it down, payment terms are Net4 from invoice date. As I stated before, we do not take a penny from you. We just ask you do the work professionally and represent our network in a professional manner..
    – Every Wednesday nights we have a conference call, the director of operations administrates the call and techs talk of strategy, upcoming projects and events, issues on sites, what went good, what went bad and we collaborate to fix any issues or misunderstandings. The conference calls are also a great place to provide your very own suggestions. The director of operations is a situational based leader and is always open to ideas and suggestions.
    – As a GGE tech, you have exclusive access to a wholesale parts distributor out of NJ called Comprehensive. The price differences are dramatic and you save lots of money on parts.
    – THIS IS NOT YET IMPLEMENTED, but the director of operations is working on a gas deal with select gas companies to provide cheaper gasoline to techs that are part of the GGE network.
    – You will be given a username and password to our automated system that alerts you of work orders, schedules your work weeks for you and you as the tech can provide any type of documentation as to what happened on the job or document your approval codes
    – This is a sub contractor network, not a full time employee, however we have so much work and not enough techs.
    We are really under a lot of pressure to develop and build this network before September when the next phase of the contract starts. This is only the second phase of this contract and we still have years to go. We will be more than happy to provide tech references for your comfort and you may ask the techs anything you want about the network and how its progressed. Please note that this is by all means not an exclusive network, we do not ask that you only work for us as you are an independent sub contractor.
    I sincerely look forward to your response and hope you see fit in our network, if you are interested and have questions, you may respond to this email or call on of the numbers provided below. If the skills and tools needed sound like something you do, please respond, we want you!! If you do decide to look further into our network please let us know the geographical region you cover so we can better manage the tech volume in that area, Techs have made a very good paycheck during the Rite Aid project and this next phase has even more sites. In this 3 ½ year contract we will be hitting a total of 6 store chains ranging from CVS, Wal-Mart, Target, Walgreen’s and more! Thank you!
    References per your request!!
    Scott K
    Recruting Department
    Global Gateway Exchange
    [email protected]
    941-735-2116
    941-735-2299

  4. got this email from GGE…never heard of never worked for them….the frst red flag was the mention of getting us cheap gas…hahahah, of course it has not be implemented yet…
    You are receiving this email because you have once or many times shown some sort of IT professionalism with a company my network used to do business with. This email IS NOT spam and I am seriously contacting you to see if you would be interested in joining our nationwide network. There is absolutely no cost to join and we do not take a penny out of the work you render. The pay is very competitive and there are many new things developing for this project. If you have a company with techs, we really encourage you to join up as you will be able to cover more areas per day, week and month!
    Global Gateway is the internal network for a very large company called Velocity. Velocity services back bone servers for AT&T and Verizon. Global Gateway is the arm of Velocity. We currently have a 3 ½ year project installing DSL modems in over 400K sites across America. We need your help. In many states we have teams of technicians that work together to get these jobs done. We are currently finishing up the 5000 Rite Aid stores we have been working on for the last 20 weeks and are moving on to another chain called Family Dollar.
    Family Dollar is located in 44 states across the U.S, and has over 6500 locations nationwide. If you are receiving this email, it is because we are light on coverage in your area and we would love for you to join the Global Gateway team! Below is a list of the skills and tools you will need to work in this project:
    Telecom, Networking, cabling: – Skill set
    We only want RELIABLE, SKILLED, PROFESSIONAL techs!!!!
    Tools and materials:
    Crimping tool
    Punch down tool
    Wire cutters
    Strippers
    Toner
    Butt set
    Cable tester
    biscuit jack
    12ft Ladder
    200ft Cat5 or Cat3 cable
    Laptop
    Below is a list of the benefits of being a GGE technician:
    – Technicians are paid every Wednesday in full provided they submit an accurate invoice every Sunday night. To break it down, payment terms are Net4 from invoice date. As I stated before, we do not take a penny from you. We just ask you do the work professionally and represent our network in a professional manner..
    – Every Wednesday nights we have a conference call, the director of operations administrates the call and techs talk of strategy, upcoming projects and events, issues on sites, what went good, what went bad and we collaborate to fix any issues or misunderstandings. The conference calls are also a great place to provide your very own suggestions. The director of operations is a situational based leader and is always open to ideas and suggestions.
    – As a GGE tech, you have exclusive access to a wholesale parts distributor out of NJ called Comprehensive. The price differences are dramatic and you save lots of money on parts.
    – THIS IS NOT YET IMPLEMENTED, but the director of operations is working on a gas deal with select gas companies to provide cheaper gasoline to techs that are part of the GGE network.
    – You will be given a username and password to our automated system that alerts you of work orders, schedules your work weeks for you and you as the tech can provide any type of documentation as to what happened on the job or document your approval codes
    – This is a sub contractor network, not a full time employee, however we have so much work and not enough techs.
    We are really under a lot of pressure to develop and build this network before September when the next phase of the contract starts. This is only the second phase of this contract and we still have years to go. We will be more than happy to provide tech references for your comfort and you may ask the techs anything you want about the network and how its progressed. Please note that this is by all means not an exclusive network, we do not ask that you only work for us as you are an independent sub contractor.
    I sincerely look forward to your response and hope you see fit in our network, if you are interested and have questions, you may respond to this email or call on of the numbers provided below. If the skills and tools needed sound like something you do, please respond, we want you!! If you do decide to look further into our network please let us know the geographical region you cover so we can better manage the tech volume in that area, Techs have made a very good paycheck during the Rite Aid project and this next phase has even more sites. In this 3 ½ year contract we will be hitting a total of 6 store chains ranging from CVS, Wal-Mart, Target, Walgreen’s and more! Thank you!
    References per your request!!
    Scott K
    Recruting Department
    Global Gateway Exchange
    [email protected]
    941-735-2116
    941-735-2299

    • GGEINTL = Velocity, Scott —> Clarence.. Put the pieces together. Everyone has been screwed.
      Registrant:
      Velocity
      7130 Spring Meadows West Dr
      Holland, Ohio 43528
      United States
      Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
      Domain Name: GGEINTL.COM
      Created on: 31-Jul-07
      Expires on: 31-Jul-09
      Last Updated on: 10-Aug-07
      Administrative Contact:
      Newcomer, Micheal [email protected]
      Velocity
      7130 Spring Meadows West Dr
      Holland, Ohio 43528
      United States
      (419) 868-9983
      Technical Contact:
      Newcomer, Micheal [email protected]
      Velocity
      7130 Spring Meadows West Dr
      Holland, Ohio 43528
      United States
      (419) 868-9983
      Domain servers in listed order:
      NS1.VELOCITYATTSERVER.COM
      NS2.VELOCITYATTSERVER.COM

  5. I’ll throw a note in about my update from the Joe Nerd situation. They owed me just under 4000.
    Chasemax has abandoned the pursuit for collections. It seems that JoeNerd has or soon will file bankruptcy and hope of a payment seems lost.
    I have since worked for Global Gateway in following up on Rite Aid project (and now getting prepared for a Family Dollar roll out). I have no outstanding balances with them, and they have paid every dime that they have agreed to. Not only that, but I’ve gotten paid for all work during the week (Mon-Sun) by either the following Wednesday or Thursday through bank wire (not a lost check in the mail). In case you are leary of getting in doing work for Velocity, from personal experience we’ve made a valuable new connection with GG. On a side note, from what I’ve heard, I would avoid proservice techs (I think that was their name) – they’ve also worked on the Rite Aid project, but seem to avoid paying techs and have weird contract stipulations for completing work for them (that you don’t get paid for anyways).
    For us, the whole Joe Nerd thing hurt, but in the end we’ve come out ahead with Global Gateway. I think we’ve made in the range of 8,000 or so since the Joe Nerd fiasco (that includes the 25% and good faith payments that Velocity paid towards Joe Nerd’s bad debt).
    Anyways, I just wanted to give an update…
    If you need any other info please contact me at [email protected] .

  6. I try my best to stay off these blogs, and to be realistic, one man’s nightmare can be another mans treasure. Basically what I mean is there are so many different postings on this blog about so many different companies, experiences and individuals that who knows what is true. The Joe Nerd thing, fine, even I lost thousands of money from them and I moved across the country to come work for them. Stupid move on my part, I should have done more research. By the way this is Scott Kosovan, director of Operations for Global Gateway. I started working for Joe Nerd mid March, well after they started selling merchant acounts and Nerdy Work accounts. To be honest with you I have NEVER sold either of the 2.
    The reason i am making a statement on this blog is because many of you have no idea who I am or what i stand for. “John22”?? yes that was from my email address, but guess who sat at my computer while I was home and wrote that blog?? Take a wild guess. I am sure I don;t have to mention his name. Anyway I quit Joe Nerd due to the fact that a) I was unable to do my job because of lack of resources, b) Clarence thought it would be a good idea to bring his wife in and she disobeyed every policy I came up with, c) he allowed her to do the bookeeping which God knows where themoney went, and d) THEY OWE ME OVER $17k!
    To all you techs who still have merchant and nerdy work accounts, I was the one struggling to help you all. I told Clarence that we needed a Retntion department for techs that wanted to cancel their subscriptions, but he did not think so. If I was able to implement a retention department, you techs would not have half the issues your fighting for. Do you want to know why they owe me so much money? Because I surrendered lots of my pay to pay techs, which I was under the assuption was happening. I had no control over the banking or accounting of that company, so for all of you who think I had something to do with your money loss, think again, they owe me more than 10 of you combined. As I stated I moved accross country to work for them. Cost me thousands! I was merely an “office manager” and worked under a company owner who had no backbone and allowed his wife to destroy his company.
    Enough with that, now I see people posting my recruitng emails? Good! And the gas thing, yes I am a hair away from implementing that. ‘Trevor” who are you to say what goes on in my network? I created a network of over 250 ELITE and very professional technicians and they will all come here and vouch that. Some of them already have. The 25% good faith payments, who do you think had to put all of that together? Me! Ask my techs if they get paid EVERY week IN FULL. They will tell you yes. You see, with Velocity, i was given the chance to create a successful network. I was not given this chance at Joe Nerd and if the owner had any sort of backbone, there would probably not be this problem right now. I have nothing to hide as I was merely an employee of a company.
    Yes I am looking for more techs to join my network. You have to provide 2 business references and I do not count OnForce ratings. No offense, but seeing what many of you post on this blog, i more than likely would deny you being part of GGE anyway. I have great relationships with my techs. I know who is getting married in February, who got divorced because of Joe Nerd, who sent their kids to Florida this summer to visit their Grandfather, who works with the NSA and FBI and who will travel anywhere to do work for me. Thats how well I know my techs. I run this network with strategic management and do whatever I can to make GGE a “technicians network”. You watch, I am working on things that will change this industry. Things no other network has done before. For starters, there is no fee to be in GGE, you get paid Net 3 from invoice in full, I have partnered with a wholesale parts company out of NJ for GGE techs and yes, i will get cheaper gas for my techs, Cheaper gas has been done before, maybe not in this industry, but it has been done and I have a conference call with the President of the company I plan to use this Friday.
    So any of you who have made false accusations about me and don’t even know me, I forgive you as your words do nothing to me. For all of my loyal GGE techs, I apologize for comingon this blog and providing this statement. I hae been holding back for months and feel it would be a good thing to say my piece. I guess I should get used to the fact that anything I email someone will end up here, but as you have seen, many techs have come on here and stated the truth about GGE, Velocity and me. One of the main techs who helpoed pioneer this blog states he does not trust me. Thats fine, I don;t expect any of you to trust me. However he failed to mention that Velocity/GGE gave him $1000 for gathering the techs that were owed money so we could offer the 25% good faith. $1000 for a simple FTP site. Basically we thanked him for making us aware of who did what work and how much they were owed. I am not at any means trying to call this tech out, but it was my understanding that we gave you more than you were expecting and recently you emailed me for work which I will be happy to send you. So anyway, I apologize to all of you techs who lost a lot of money, wives, families, cars etc. I have a family too and me not getting paid really hurt mine. Thank God for the ESC and Federal income taxes or I would be SOL. Good luck to all of you techs and maybe one day we will all stop this blog bashing and get back to work where the real money is. Everyone here has my email so I am willing to answer any questions you may have and possibly help you as much as I can. I am not the monster many of you have made me out to be. Thanks and to all my GGE techs, I thank you all for trusting me and allowing me to develop a network you all enjoy being in. Thanks

    • I did work for Joe Nerd and like everyone else I didn’t see a penny from Joe Nerd. But I have to say that Scott K is a man of his word, he has been fair and honest any time I talked to him and have paid me the good faith payment as he said, and I would gladly work with him again.Just so that no one can come back and state that this is probably Scott or a friend of his writing this message.
      I am In Louisville, KY and I can be reached at: [email protected]

  7. I’m a customer of Joe Nerd looking to get paid back for pre-paid services. I spoke with Clarence today and he indicated that he is in Florida. Do you have his mailing address?
    Thanks,
    Louis

  8. This is m first post on this blog and I fell like I need to say a few things:As fr as Joe Nerd is oncerned, thy owe my company $3,700.00 and have only paid me $100.00 to date. They di mke countless arraignments to pay and never followed through. They also sent metheir NerdyWOrk Debit card and promised to load $100.00 a week until my balance is paid off. I havent received on payment yet. That is ok I am not going to say what i going to happen to Clarence Williams on a public blog, but he cannot just claim bankruptcy an think this whole sitautrion will go away. The FBI, the BBB, and te local authorities will be involeved as well as countless other agencies, debt collectos, leins, brute force, etc.
    As far as Scott Kosovan and GGE I cannot say enough good about him. Scott is in the same boat and many of us on here. He did start a very succesful netowrek and I have doe alot of work for him and have gotten paid every Wednesday or Thursday after the Sunday that I sent in my invoice. Scott is definatly a man of his word and will go out of his way to take care of the technicians in his network. I would highly recommend anyone who is thinking about joining to join and see for themselves. THisGGE company and network all came about because of Joe Nerd’s inadaqcies and I am thankful that while i am out thousands with Joe Nerd, I am working and will continue to have work from GGE for the next 5 years. There is one good thing that came out of me initially working for oe Nerd.
    Tim McGure
    Owner/President
    Pc Rx Computer Doctors
    http://www.pcrxcomputerdoctor.com/

  9. thanks for the info. i too fell for the joenerd.com work scam. i learned my lesson not to work for just any company without getting references. I am owed $250 since 06/17/08

  10. AT least they spoke with you. I filed a complaint to the BBB abuiot them. They owe me for 56 hours of work. Haven’t responded to my email about the pay. Initially they did, but now, nothing. I might go and ge in contact with Jeff Hill or get my attorney involded and sue them for a lot more than waht they owe me. Thanks

  11. I’ve a slightly different issue with Joe Nerd. When signing up in early January I was required to create a Linkpoint account for payments to me. This seemed OK, then came the email from Suzanne Sidler. I was leary, but then came a request for work not far from me. I put in two hours of work, then lost contact with JoeNerd. Called a few times but you all know how that goes. Then came the kicker, Linkpoint (or Cardservice international) contacted me to let me know that my account due to inactivity would now be charged $5.00 / month. I have no other reason for this account than to receive payments from Joe Nerd, so I called to cancel the account. After cancelling the account, two weeks later, I got a call from Card Service International. they claim that I owe them $1500 for early cancellation. When I asked them how I could get that cancellation fee waived, they said the only person who could do that was my “SALES REP”. Who is that? SUZANNE SIDLER. Now, not being able to contact Joe Nerd in any way, even emails to Clarence and others, I’m still looking at $1500 report on my credit.
    Anyone else having this problem?
    Poolczar

  12. Update, I was able to finally get Cardservice international to waive the cancellation fee. Turns out that my Agent, previously Suzanne Sidler was changed to Clarence Williams. They gave me his phone number too, which he answered. Not sure if I can post it here, but anyone who wants it, just email me.

  13. I preformed work for low life (joe nerd) and still have not been paid after participating in the rite aid projectI have since then contacted rite aid executives and expresed concerne about joe nerd ripping tech off. Rite aid was well aware of this and i hope they are able to bring legal charges against the owner and take everything he charishes and belives in. As far as i am concerened he is a smelly piece of shit….Thanks

  14. Did Clarence call them and take care of it? I too have called him and he has done nothing to wave my cancelation fees for First Data. Please let me know what happened.

  15. Wow holy shit I joined up with Joe nerd in June not knowing all this drama that is going on around them. I joined them becouse a guy I meet from Justtoo sales in Florida where I live said they they have so many sales contracts and not enough Techs to cover all the calls they get. Well after a month of waiting for that call I called their rep in Florida Todd from Justtoo sales and told him I wanted to drop out from the program he told me to hang on becouse they were new to Florida and they were working on getting contracts in Florida. It has been almost 3 months will out a service call and now im glad I didnt get a call knowing I wouldnt get paid. Im going to call my bank and put a stop payment on that $35 they are taking out of my account. Thank you to all who have posted on this blog and are letting everyone know what is going on. Thankyou

    • Just found out Joe Nerd is out of Bradenton FL …time for a road trip. Im not one to be riped off. I once drove 272 miles to beat the snot out of a guy that sold me a shity hot tub.

    • Kick’em in the nuts once for us Gus… (song lyric’s) LOL I was paid by the store I did the work for and they got taken by Joe Nerd…

  16. I (obviously) still haven’t been paid, I haven’t been on this blog for awhile, but it’s been months. Apparently Clarence & Joe Nerd screwed over the company called Onesource/Revacomm that I did the work for and they aren’t going to pay me until Joe Nerd pays them. Last month they told me they were trying to take legal action to get their money back. I’m pretty sure I’m SOL though, which really sucks because I’m extremely broke and I could use the $425 for the work I did.

  17. I do realize it is more work to have to do this to get paid, but if you want to get paid do it.. Here is how I got paid.. I contacted the local office and asked how to get in touch with accounts payable. I contacted the corporate office and asked how to get paid, I was told hang on for accounts payable. When I talked to accounts payable they said that they had paid for that work already. I explained that I had been the one to actually do the work and had not been paid. She said she would look in to it and of course that is just a blow off.. I called back now armed with the phone number to corporate and asked to be paid. Again I was told they had paid. I told them that if I did not receive payment I would begin legal actions to collect the debt and that I was going to place a lien on the property location the work was performed. Again please let me look in to it further they said. A couple more days go by I wait.. No call back so agian I call, next person I talk to again tells me please do not file a lien and hold off legal action until they look in to it. They call me back and offer half the money ( this indicates you have them) tell them no I would prefer all that I am owed or I will persue action as needed and again throw out there you will file a lien. This gets more attention than anything, as you have the right to file a lien on the property. This does take time a few minutes a day a couple times a week and follow through and you will get paid in full… This does work and persue it.. You might even have to file a lien but do it and you will get your money plus the cost to file the lien.. Thay are banking on people not knowing what to do and being to lazy to collect what they are owed.. Good luck to all… Thanks

    • Yeah, the company OneSource/Revacomm pretty much gave me the blow off line “well we haven’t been paid yet, as soon as we get our money from joe nerd….” Yeah right like they’re going to get money from joe nerd. And I still do need to be paid for my work, so maybe I’ll give this a shot. I can guarantee I need the money more than they do right now.

    • I left off the most important part the company you go after is the company you actually worked at.. In my case I did work for American Eagle, most guys did work for Rite Aid and many others.. Thats who you contact as they (Rite Aid Etc) have a liability under the law to verify that contractors they hire pay sub-contractors that perform the work… The law states anyone who hires a contractor to perform work is also liable for payment to the sub-contractor hired by that contractor. Should the contractor fail to pay its sub-contractors the person or persons (company) shall be held liable to pay tthe sub-contractors. It will then be the Person who hired the contractor, to recover from said contractor. This passage is from the Federal Business and professions code. Sorry I should have put this sooner..

  18. To all that have been screwed. Please know that Clarence Williams and Scott Kosovan are old friends from high school in Scotch Plains/Fanwood NJ. They are in this together and don’t buy it for a minute that they are not working together anymore. I feel sorry for all of you as I have gotten screwed too. Damn we are all such fools.

    • Uh… your information about them working together is not accurate. So.. wherever you heard that from… Know your facts.No one that works with Scott is getting screwed at all..
      I have no idea who Clarence is working with or what he is doing, but it’s not with Scott

  19. Performed Rite Aid install work in the East TN area months ago and received completion confirmation# — HAVE NOT RECEIVED A DIME FROM THEM.
    I even saved them $ on an install which they were unaware was already completed (could have claimed that I did it and received the verification code for myself…but did not…just informed them about it).
    While this is probably a legit biz endeavor….IMO (after speaking directly to one of the head folks…may have even been the owner)….it seems to be run by smooth-talking hucksters who have tried to profit from ripping off those who they regard as “schmuck” free-lance techs.
    In all actuality…they’ll just shoot themselves in the foot, long term.

  20. Performed Rite Aid install work in the East TN area months ago and received completion confirmation# — HAVE NOT RECEIVED A DIME FROM THEM.
    I even saved them $ on an install which they were unaware was already completed (could have claimed that I did it and received the verification code for myself…but did not…just informed them about it).
    While this is probably a legit biz endeavor….IMO (after speaking directly to one of the head folks…may have even been the owner)….it seems to be run by smooth-talking hucksters who have tried to profit from ripping off those who they regard as “schmuck” free-lance techs.
    In all actuality…they’ll just shoot themselves in the foot, long term.

  21. All of these NERD like business apparition’s some of them good some of them not so good. How ’bout “NERDS TO THE RESCUE,” now there’s an image people can get with. When a call comes in, the Civil Airhorn in the underground Nerd bunker starts to spin out of control blasting it’s caterwailing tone, then a hundred sets of eyes shielded by thick black rimmed glasses appear above their L.E.D. screen’s, that’s right folks these Nerds to the Rescue have L.E.D. Nerds to the Rescue, the computer Insurgents!

  22. All of these NERD like business apparition’s some of them good some of them not so good. How ’bout “NERDS TO THE RESCUE,” now there’s an image people can get with. When a call comes in, the Civil Airhorn in the underground Nerd bunker starts to spin out of control blasting it’s caterwailing tone, then a hundred sets of eyes shielded by thick black rimmed glasses appear above their L.E.D. screen’s, that’s right folks these Nerds to the Rescue have L.E.D. Nerds to the Rescue, the computer Insurgents!

  23. So what ever happened? Did everyone get paid? or ripped off? Did Clarence go to jail? Why is joe nerds website still up….Sad to see this injustice topic drop like yesterdays news

  24. I have a PI keeping tabs on Clarence If I get any usable info and this site is still up I will post it on here.

  25. Hi I was also contracted through Getronics via Joe Nerd at a Target in Lathrop. I have thought about invoicing the store as well but i have no idea what to do

  26. It is a scam. They hire people to do their work or transfer information and then do not pay them. It is exactly like the Wal-Mart gift wrapper scam. Anyone who has been employed needs to call the police and be honest about whatever work you were contracted to do . Sorry.

  27. Hate to even bring this up. I’m over it. Did work for the crook & never got paid. I’m sure Clarence has found a new scam by now, one day he may get what’s coming to him. He’ll have stolen enough cash for a nice funeral.

  28. Unfortunetly for me I found your blog to late and ended up working for Geeks-in-Route and got screwed over on a job I did for them. It turned out that the customer wasn’t in town and the still tried to charge $159.90 becuase he didn’t contact them to cancel, and I was to be paid only $30. But they refuse to return my calls or email. It sucks that we must find out this way, which companies are BS. Another one to watch out for is Rescuecom.com, they will try to rob you blind while charging the EU up to $100 an hour and try some BS if you get the bonus the pay is double otherwise you’re paid $12.50 an hour. And they will use every trick in the book as to why you didn’t earn the bonus.Good Luck to all who find themselves in the same boat

  29. Hello, I am technician considering a potential gig in the works with Global Gateway Exchange (ggetechs.com). After doing a bit of searching and background on them, it appears they are affiliated with what used to be nerdywork.com.
    Has anyone had any experiences lately with GGEtechs.com (good or bad)?

    • Did a job for them on May 23 2011. Purchased a replacement modem for the project out of my own pocket. Have not been paid or reimbursed going on 90 days. Stay away from GGETECHS if you value your time. And never put your own money on the line because you will never see it again. I will probably end up filing a lein on the building where I did the work in order to get paid.

      • I have done work for them in the past and had no issues, are you sure you submitted all your paperwork correctly?

  30. They called me on the phone 2 are 3 times to go do work when it was still Nerdy Work.I did one job for them and never got paid. It was at a Rite Aid